4/22/20

BREAKING: Al Mohler Fires Conservative Wing at Southern Seminary

Yesterday, in an unprecedented move, Albert Mohler, the president of the Southern Baptist's flagship seminary in Louisville, KY, fired four of the remaining conservative professors at the institution. Russell Fuller, Theodore CabalKen Magnuson, and Jim Orrick (who taught at Boyce College) were all terminated by provost Matthew Hall.  The seminary offered salary and benefits through July on the condition that non-disclosure agreements, requiring the withholding of potentially damaging information concerning the seminary and firing process, would be signed within forty-five days.

Russell Fuller became the only full-time Southern Baptist professor to sign the Dallas Statement on Social Justice one year ago. Critic of "New Calvinism," Jim Orrick, along with Cabal, and Magnuson have all stood against the advance of New Liberalism at the school. However, that resistance comes to an end today as the board of trustees almost unanimously voted for their termination in support of Albert Mohler's plan to cut cost during the Covid-19 quarantine.

Interestingly, various media outlets are reporting this week on Albert Mohler's endorsement of President Trump's reelection, a switch from his stated conviction four years ago. Left-leaning members of the convention, like Dwight McKissic have disapproved, while conservatives like Tom Buck have touted the decision. However, some have asked why Mohler fails to oppose those advocating shared Democrat ideas and policies in his own convention and at his own seminary.

Hershael York, Matt Hall, and Jarvis Williams have advocated teachings consistent with Critical Race Theory up until very recently. Curtis Woods, who chaired the resolutions committee which approved "Resolution 9" in 2019, employed "principles of critical race theory to guide" his 2018 dissertation at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. Woods left his job at the school over a month ago to work for the Kentucky Baptist Convention, but did so on his own accord.

Jonathan Pennington, another professor at SBTS, favors a "Gadamerian postmodern interpretation" of scripture and denies the "one true, objective meaning" derived from the text. Danny Akin, the president of Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, and Mohler protégé, recently advocated a watered-down version of a postmodern standpoint epistemology, which Critical Race Theory is based upon. Southeastern professors Walter Strickland, Miguel Echevvaria, Matthew Mullins, and William Branch, among others, have pulled their seminary in a leftward direction for some time.

Despite Al Mohler's changed position on Donald Trump, he has also purposefully ignored or supported liberals in his own convention and seminary while opposing or firing conservatives. Regardless of these confusing actions on Mohler's part, one thing is clear: The road ascending to the presidency of the denomination has been anything but a smooth ride for Mohler, and one wonders if he ever reaches the end of it, what kind of a convention will be left for him to lead?


Update 4:42 PM: Just received word Ken Magnuson's status is undetermined. He will find out in two weeks whether or not he's fired. He has been put on notice however.


Update 4/23/2020: Russell Fuller's son, David Fuller, commented on his father's firing on Facebook.

I am proud to be the son of the God fearing man, Russell Fuller. On the week my Dad was unjustly fired from his job, I want to affirm this article as a good synopsis of who my Dad is.

First, he literally wrote the book on how to learn Biblical Hebrew. It is such a fantastic work that he got an award from Hebrew Union College and they now use his book to teach their students Biblical Hebrew.

Second, and most important, he is unafraid to take a stand for orthodoxy even if it means losing his job. He condemned publicly the wicked social justice movement that now rages among the faculty and leaders of Southern Seminary.

You can see evidence of the stand he took by his name being the only one from Southern Seminary affixed to the Dallas statement. And this was only the tip of the iceberg of the many public and private stands he took to keep Southern Seminary orthodox during his tenure. For more info on the various stands he made, just ask the myriad of students he has taught over the years or the few faithful professors who stood with him at Southern Seminary.

For standing for truth, my Dad was fired by the very school that utilizes the slogan “trusted for truth”. And in a final twist of irony, he was fired by the man he opposed so forcefully from being promoted to provost for his radically liberal views, the self avowed racist, Matt Hall.


Update 4/23/2020:  Theodore Cabal has also reacted here:

Due to the economic crisis caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary made the difficult decision this week to cut its budget by 30%. Staff and faculty layoffs were part of this cut and included me. I would normally have no need to address this issue, especially at a time when people are losing even loved ones.

But yesterday persons unknown to me described online my layoff as a purge of the last theologically conservative faculty at Southern. The idea that those remaining are heterodox shocked and angered me. The rest of the piece got worse, presenting many Southern Baptists I love and respect as if they were heretics. Before day’s end other bloggers repeated the falsehoods, but none consulted me regarding any of their content. I affirm my SBTS colleagues and the others I know to be exceedingly fine Christians in purity of life and doctrine. To besmirch them in this way is to reveal ignorance and/or dishonesty.

I bear no ill will toward SBTS over my layoff. Cheri and I are looking forward to what lies ahead. And we especially want to thank dear friends all over the world who have contacted us in love and encouragement.

Conversations That Matter Responded to this and other objections here:

43 comments:

  1. Why does one need to sign a NDA at a seminary, just sounds fishy?

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    1. This whole article sounds fishy. Who are the sources? Who is "Jon" (the author)? Also, where is "Boice College"? Never heard of it. I have, however, heard of Boyce College. It seems pretty obvious that this is a smear article meant only to attack Al Mohler and Southern as a whole because they hold to the inerrant Word of God. It's sad that someone would resort to this. I refuse to believe any of this without credible sources.

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    2. I gave up on Al Mohler when he refused to sign the Dallas Statement on Social Justice on the grounds that it might give blacks the idea that we don't care about racial issues. As a black man, that was the lamest excuse I ever heard. In my opinion, he is trying to protect his position at the seminary rather than speak the truth. This does not surprise me not one bit.

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  2. I’m a two-time graduate of SBTS. I studied under Orrick, Cabal and Fuller. This is distressing.

    I would, however, like some source attribution.

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  3. Saddened, but not surprised. Not the same school it was when I went there. This is and long has been one of the main problems with the way the SBC is structured. You have the people in the pews funding these entities, institutions, and organizations, but not knowing, understanding, caring, or paying attention to what is going on at these places. I'm convinced if most people attending and contributing to SBC churches actually knew and understood what Russell Moore believes, what he is promoting, and what he represents, he would have been fired years ago. But this is the way it goes. So sad.

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  4. The problem is that there is a famine of the word. The teachers in the sbc confuse law and gospel.

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  5. Sources, please? I thought faculty couldn't be fired without violating the Abstract of Principles?

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    1. The trustees voted to bounce these men - Abstract of Principles does not protect one's job - and what more do you need to prove his statement - THE MEN WERE FIRED!

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  6. I am no friend of CRT, and I applaud anyone who challenges that aspect of what is occurring at SBTS. But I think the author of this article is seeing something that isn't there on this one.

    I never had Orrick (I attend SBTS, not Boice), but I had all the other three. Two of those three I would never voluntarily take a class from again. One of them, it was one of the three worst pedagogical experiences I have had in my entire time as a student (4 degrees across 4 different disciplines). The third, I liked, but does not appear to have a particularly good reputation among the students, and if anything leans liberal in some of his views.

    I have no doubt that all 4 of these men are truly converted and very godly men.

    However, to sum up, while people may have legitimate heartburn about other professors who are still there, frankly I think this was a measure of letting go what could probably legitimately be called underperforming professors.

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    1. What makes you say these four professors were "underperforming"? Sources, please. Also, it's "Boyce," not "Boice."

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    2. Perhaps you mean "underperforming" accordinng to what the kids and denomination s are looking for these days?

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  7. I am a current student at SBTS and I can confirm that, as of 9pm on April 22nd, Dr. Fuller, Dr. Magnuson, and Dr. Cabal are all still employed and slated to teach classes in the Fall semester. The only one I could not confirm was Jim Orrick, presumably because he teaches at Boyce.

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  8. Interesting that so many people are asking for sources and yet entering their comments as anonymous. Seems like a double standard. Also kind of sad that the major controversy in the comments seems to be how to spell Boyce. As far as the fact that they are on the schedule for fall, that means nothing. Back when I went there in its conservative heyday, you would see professors names on the schedule and then never hear from them again. And as far as the comment above about professors not being fired unless they violated the abstract of principles, I'm not sure where the poster got that information. Dr. Mohler convinced the trustees to do away with tenure a couple of years ago so pretty much any professor can be fired at will now as I understand it. I can't confirm whether this article is true or not, but it sounds about right. Anybody who doesn't think this is possible or happening or that these professors somehow were fired because they were underperforming or that this is a smear tactic against Dr. Mohler has not been paying attention to what's been going on at Southern, Southeastern, within the ERLC, and at most SBC entities these days. Which is exactly why they can get away with doing what they've been doing.

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    1. Sources, please. What exactly is "going on at Southern, Southeastern, within the ERLC, and at most SBC entities these days"? You've made some serious assertions without citing a single credible source.

      I am going to rely on credible, primary sources until they are proven otherwise. That is not "not paying attention," it is simply being a responsible reader. It "sounds about right" to me that this is simply a smear tactic against SBTS and Dr. Mohler since not a single credible source has been cited.

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    2. Do you know how to use Google? In the same amount of time you've been on here crying about "sources" you could have read them.

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    3. Yessir, and I was unable to find anything in support of your statement. I would appreciate it if you could provide some links to the sources you used. Since you made the claims, you know where you found that information so it should be easily available to you. Thanks!

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    4. Anonymous... I would agree regarding a rush to judgment.

      This seems to stem from what appears to be a 'possible' progressive drift by certain individuals and entities within the SBC. This is due to the stance on social justice and Resolution 9 passed last year, with regards to Critical Race Theory, intersectionality, and complementarianism.

      Also, the vague and somewhat confusing comments made by SBC leaders in regards to the same. One example is the adversity with regards to the 'Statement on Social Justice and the Gospel', of which Dr. John MacArthur and Dr. Tom Ascol were leading advocates and signers.

      Dr. Ascol, and Founders Ministries, has also produced a documentary film "By What Standard" addressing these issues within the SBC. It is available to be watched on the Founders Ministries website.

      Also, Dr. E. S. Williams, of the London Metropolitan Tabernacle (Spurgeon's Church, Peter Masters-pastor), has created some curious documentary videos, with regard to Al Mohler, on YouTube (thenewcalvinist).

      It also seems these issues have resulted in the SBC Executive Committee creating a task force to investigate the ERLC. Additionally, to my understanding, there has been the formation of the 'Conservative Baptist Network' in reaction to these recent developments.

      Regardless, all will be revealed according to our Lord's timetable. Whether there needs to be vindication, repentance, and apologies... or reproof, rebuke, and separation. Soli Deo Gloria!

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  9. If you click on Jon's name you will find his email. Why don't you ask him what his sources are? Or click on several of the other hyperlinks.

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    1. None of his "sources" support any of his claims, they are simply biographical information directly from Southern, links to Amazon, or to other blog entries. Nothing from a primary source - no direct quotes or even paraphrases.

      I would recommend that you take a look at several of the links provided and show how his claims are supported instead of blindly following someone simply because they agree with your ideology.

      "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." This blog post maliciously attacks the integrity of Al Mohler and SBTS, as well as those four professors with zero credible sources to date. Either support the claims made by using primary sources, or issue a public apology to SBTS, Dr. Mohler, and those four men for those libelous claims.

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    2. If you go to https://founders.org/cinedoc/ and view the cinedoc (I believe it's free), you will see what is going on in seminary -- Realize that some of these videos of professors teaching were on the site until Mohler requested they be removed (like the one where Hall is calling himself a "racist". Those who have already made up their minds that the seminary has done no wrong, will find a way to excuse the film's damning evidence in professors' own words also, but to those with ears to hear and eyes to see....

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  10. These men are all people Mohler hired. They are all likely high cost guys because they've been there a long time (all 20+ years). All are nearing retirement age (once you hit 70 you are asked to retire from SBTS). Mohler is clearly reducing the philosophy department perhaps for "philosophical" reasons (couldn't resist). While the Fuller departure looks awkward there are other, viable alternative explanations that also fit this group. Of course, it could be a combination of factors which we'll likely never know.

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  11. Is there a source I could look at concerning the NDA? Thanks.

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  12. In the bible it warns us to look out for agents of Satan sneaking into the church unawares. Moehler is an example of this happening.

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    1. Bob, that is a serious statement to make. Please support your accusation. How is he an example of an agent of Satan sneaking into the church unaware?

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    2. Mohler is the most narcissistic human on earth.

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  13. 1) They were not "fired," they were "laid off" - HUGE difference - (see a definition of laid off v. fired here - https://www.job-hunt.org/layoffs/laid-off-or-fired.shtml, see Ted Cabal's confirmation that he was laid off, not fired, here - https://tedcabal.com/index.php/2020/04/24/the-truth-about-my-relationship-to-sbts/)

    2) Jon Harris plagiarized this post from the far-right group "Enemies Within The Church" - https://enemieswithinthechurch.com/2020/04/22/breaking-al-mohler-fires-conservatives-at-southern/

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    1. Thanks for the honesty. It is too fishy

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    2. This has to be a Russian bot.

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    3. ^"a Russian bot" is your best response to your malarkey being fact checked? LOL! Provide true primary sources and then maybe you can begin to claim you even remotely have a leg to stand on.

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    4. Right click and select "page info." It's easy to see which article was posted first. I'm not going to be responding anymore to "Anonymous" or "Unknown."

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  14. As a former SBTS student and employee, I would caution everyone who is fighting on Al Mohler's and SBTS's behalf to spend more time fighting spiritually on Jesus Christ behalf against principalities and powers of the air. To trust in any man or institution is to be deceived. Christ Jesus is our only Savior. In regards to SBTS, I will simply say this , students were not always referenced behind closed doors as brothers and sisters in the Lord, but as "credit hours sold." And it was stated by someone who worked very closely with Al Mohler that he worked tirelessly "for the seminary" not "For Christ" but "For the Seminary" which was alarming. There is a lot of worship of men and degrees that take place as well as a fear of man. Trust in Christ alone, so at His coming you will not be ashamed.

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    1. As a current SBTS student and member of the same church as the Mohlers, I can say that they genuinely care about their students. I agree that we need to fight for the truth of the gospel, and not place our trust in any man, but when someone who I believe does that on a daily basis is being unjustly maligned, I will stand up for them and the truth. My trust is in the truth, and I will stand up for it.

      As believers, we are to love the truth and hate falsehood. This blog article was written with the intent to damage SBTS and Dr. Mohler's character. That can be proven simply by the language that was used (e.g. "fired" versus "laid off"). And then all this insistence on an explanation for an industry standard use of NDAs needs to stop, it is just that - the industry standard. In this day and age, unfortunately, legal measures need to be put in place to protect institutions regardless of if they're needed.

      Whoever is in support of this article without any primary sources needs to seriously repent. If you were being unjustly maligned, you would want someone to defend you. I am simply defending SBTS and the Mohlers because I would want the same to be done for me if I was in that situation.

      If you believe I'm wrong for standing up for what I believe is the truth, supported by Scripture, then please prove me wrong and I will be the first to repent for misplacing my trust.

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  15. I exhort you in all humility and in submission to the Lord Jesus Christ, please examine your very words. You mentioned the need to fight for the truth of the gospel, and the Mohlers; but no where did you mention Christ Jesus. We are to place our trust not in the scriptures or men who seemingly rightly divide the scriptures but in the one the scriptures point to, Christ alone. We sing this in our hymns but many do not know Him. This happens when man is exalted rather than Christ Jesus, men are drawn to men and not Christ. There is a clear exaltation of Mohler and other "great theologians and professors" that takes place at Southern and other seminaries that is of the kingdom of darkness, of satan and not of the Kingdom of Christ. To protect and exalt man rather than God is not supported in the Word of God - it is sin. Christ does not call us to defend or to protect "His name", He will protect and defend His own name, especially on the last day. Moreover, anyone who speaks against Christ does not know Him and therefore are not His. If there was any name to defend, it would be our Savior's name, the name above all names Jesus Christ and if He does not require this of us, how can anyone ever justify protecting the name of any man? If Mohler is truly a man sent by Christ Jesus and given to the church as a teacher, God will deal justly with those who are wrongfully accusing and mistreating His servants, vengeance is the Lord, not any person's. I love the Lord Jesus Christ, and if someone is speaking ill of me, it means nothing. What does my name mean? I have the power to save no one. I care only that my Lord's name is exalted. John the Baptist says I must decrease that Christ may increase. We are nothing and Christ alone is all. Paul corrects the Corinthian Church of this in 1 Corinthians 3:4. People were walking around saying, "I am of Paul", "I am of Apollos" - which was sin. You will find people at Southern doing the the same thing when they praise their favorite theologians and not Christ:"I am of Mohler", "I am of Pennington", "I am of Jonathan Edwards", "I am of John Piper", "I am of John McArthur." This is sin and God hates it and every man of God should hate it as well. I do not care what that man has done, it is sin to put him in the place reserved only for our Lord. Mohler cares for students,(Although many international students at Southern would most likely have another opinion about this as they are offered very low pay even with families to take care of, and they are only able to work on campus part-time), but presidents of secular universities have students that will say the same of them. Presidents of universities are hired to care about students; the question remains, why is Mohler's name being protected and exalted amongst men? (Even a professor in class confessed that among faculty, men are exalted and praised, especially Mohler). There is a Spirit of pride and fear of man that is pervasive at Southern. Anyone who is protecting the name of men among men and to men, please repent and turn to the Lord! We battle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. If you are fighting an earthly battle between men and right-theology alone, you are deceived and fighting the wrong battle. We as the people of God are to fight spiritual battles. Christ is soon to return. We want to stand before Him on the last Day knowing that we did the will of our Heavenly Father and exalted His name, the name of Christ, alone.

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    1. Nobody here is exalting Mohler, they are advocating for truth. There is nothing wrong with asking for one to verify claims through primary sources. It is, however, very unChristlike and sinful to condemn people who are not eager to jump and attack a brother.

      Mohler or not, it doesn't matter who it is, "By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another." - John 13:35

      This original blog post was very unloving since it is all speculation and gossip with no primary sources. Your response appears unloving as well. I shudder to think what any unbelievers who read this would think about those bearing the name of Christ. It's clear that those defending Jon and his post are "of Jon." I urge and plead with you to repent!

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    2. I find it interesting the same "Anonymous" guy keeps popping up as if he or she's monitoring this page but doesn't anyone to know who they are. This is all prejudicial conjecture from someone who clearly doesn't know or doesn't care that they don't know what sources were or weren't used. Keep the accusations flowing, but there's a reason most of us aren't going to take an "Anonymous" account seriously.

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    3. I find it interesting and disheartening that you keep avoiding simply providing us with the "sources" (or lack thereof) that you have used... I am merely shedding light in the darkness on those who are engaging in falsehood. It's sad that one bearing the name of "brother" is engaging in this sinful act, but it is necessary for you, Jon Harris, and others participating in it to be called out. I urge you to repent on this side of eternity. We are all known for our fruit (Matthew 7:15-20), and right now yours has been nothing but malicious slander. Without you providing primary sources, you're only being a false teacher, and your fruit speaks for itself.

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  16. Anonymous, I will say this and let this be my final comment on the matter. My comments had nothing to do with the post, but directed at what what was occuring under the post and what occurs regularly at the seminary, the protection and exaltation of Mohler and other theologians among those proclaiming Christ. It is time for this deception and unfruitful work of darkness to be exposed. Christ has called us to Himself to bear His Name alone. If we are contending at all with one another to preserve the name and honor of any man for any reason it is not of God and we are deceived by satan. It is not love and it is not for "truth" that we defend the name of any man otherwise the Word of God would have directed it. We encourage you in all humility to examine your words. There was no mention of devotion or allegiance to Christ, but a constant reference to the "truth". The "truth" is not the knowledge of scripture. The truth is Christ Jesus. If you want to stand for truth, stand for Christ, and let every other man be a liar. If Mohler is for Christ, he would care nothing of his name being defended by anyone, he would desire only for Christ's name and honor to be exalted. As believers, we should be willing to be shamed, mocked, beat, ridiculed, lied on and even our lives taken from us that Christ alone would receive all devotion, all honor, all glory and all praise. We are advocating for Christ alone to be exalted over all men and all creation.

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    1. Last I checked, Mohler isn't defending himself.

      "Sanctify them in the truth; your word [i.e. God's Word - the Bible] is truth." - John 17:17

      "By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another." - John 13:35

      I am merely urging you to live by the gospel you claim to profess and believe, and the gospel to which SBTS and Al Mohler hold to as well. Stop participating in malicious slander, period. Believers are not to engage in falsehood (Eph. 4:25).

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  17. I personally find it entertaining to see all these “anonymous” people calling Harris out repeatedly. It’s clear he doesn’t give a hoot what anyone says. I think it is a bit dishonest and it shows his cards when he says the profs were fired when they were just laid off due to budget cuts brought on by COVID, but what can you do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ blessings to all

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  18. Just call me Anonymous-19

    All of this talk for sources is rich. It has never been the case that any SBC seminary ever releases a name of who is being laid off, fired, or furloughed. It has always been by word of mouth and usually happens unexpectedly to the person. That is why when it is Trustees week, you pray harder than ever that your name isn't brought up in conversation. Since this is the case, you won't know who is fired until the fall when they finally clean the website's faculty profiles up, and you can compare that list to the current one.

    Another thing. Of course Fuller was let go because he signed the Dallas Statement. He is as a fact the most qualified of the faculty members, having EARNED his doctorate at Dropsie after HUC. Sure, he probably gets paid more, but he's also worth more. Whether the others are let go because of the 16mil budget loss is debatable. It probably is the case that they were just trimmed without provocation, but not so with Fuller. Don't be mistaken: He was fired.

    Some of you need to awaken from your self-induced comas. If Mohler was aligned to the Dallas Statement or even to furthering the stark conservatism he historically advocated for, he wouldn't have social justice warriors and practitioners on the staff. Yes, the same Mohler who cleared house decades ago after R. L. Honeycutt's disastrous tenure and the same Mohler who didn't blink an eye to fire Eric Johnson in broad daylight, that same Mohler can't seem to shot straight anymore. He's lost his sight in old age. Only a fool would not only follow a blind man but would also justify his blunders along the way to perdition.

    And for the record, if you are going to attend an increasingly moderate Baptist seminary, you'd do a lot better at Truett or Wake Forest.

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  19. Here is what I know, as a graduate of Southern in 2016:
    I. As a student, beginning around 2014, I noticed more rhetoric of social justice coming from Russell Moore, Matt Hall, and much of the student body
    II. Since the Dallas Statement came out after I graduated, I am unaware of which professors support it and which oppose it, I did hear James White say he heard that Southern Baptist leaders were strictly warned not to sign it, since it would cause denominational strife.
    III. The three Southern professors (I am unaware of Orrick), while I consider them brothers and intelligent scholars, were unpopular among the student body
    A. Dr. Fuller's methods for teaching Hebrew were radically different from what one would encounter in an average seminary classroom, and did not necessarily translate well into Dr. Gentry's and Dr. Garret's classes.
    B. Dr. Cabal held two controversial positions: Old Earth Creationism and opposition to presuppositional apologetics.
    C. Dr. Magnuson was considered by most of the student body to be a poor lecturer.
    IV. As a result, I believe there are multiple explanations as to why these four were fired and why others were not, but I believe the primary reason was that Dr. Mohler and the administrators were trying to gauge what the student body wanted, and in light of their financial difficulties, were trying to pick "the lesser of two evils."

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    1. Hey, fellow SBTS grad! I also graduated in 2016. I had Dr. Fuller, Dr. Cabal, and Dr. Magnuson as my professors. While some may have not enjoyed their classes, I did. I learned the Fuller method of learning Hebrew after taking Gentry. Dr. Gentry is very knowledgeable on languages but I don't think he is the best at teaching elementary Hebrew. Maybe it was me. Random thought, Dr. Garret is underrated as a professor.

      With that said, I imagine your assessment is closer to the truth. What bothers me the most is Dr. Fuller being fired, according to his son's Facebook post. I think that's the trail to follow. Something seems off about that.

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  20. Here is Al Mohler's response to the lay offs (please note this is a bit lengthy) - https://albertmohler.com/2020/04/27/higher-education-and-the-covid-19-crisis-the-determination-of-southern-seminary-and-boyce-college-in-the-present-hour

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